21st Century DACE?

NB – please post responses to this article via the SUGGESTIONS tab on the menu bar!

Here’s a question. The University acknowledged in its recent response to the consultation process that the energies and opinions generated by the SaveDACE Facebook group and Website were very much responsible for the favourable outcome of their recommendations.

So, in the sure and certain hope that DACE will thrive and prosper throughout the process of change, what do YOU think the functions of FB and Website should be now?

Should SaveDACE give way to YourDACE? A Facebook page run by DACE seems to make sense. What would you like to see included? News of courses? Opportunities to get together with fellow students? Info about University departments and initiatives that can tie in with DACE studies?

This is your forum. We need your ideas to survive! Please make your responses on the ‘Suggestions’ page, and thanks to those of you who’ve visited so far.

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Message from SaveDACE to DACE supporters

We hope that by now most of you will have seen the University’s 10-point consultation process document, as well as yesterday’s media coverage of the Panel’s report re DACE’s future. It’s good to hear influential voices like those of Liz Lochhead and the Astronomer Royal welcoming the new proposals.

The University acknowledges that OUR voices, too, were responsible for their recommendations. But it doesn’t stop here.

Just a few of us run the SaveDACE site, and we don’t want to put words in your mouth. We have a huge sense of relief that commonsense appears to have won through, AND we also have some questions about the specific proposals.

Do you feel the same? What do you support? What would you challenge? What questions do you have? Or is it all over, and should we just relax?

Most importantly of all, do you agree with us that a stronger student voice in future would help DACE develop and avoid another crisis like this one?

Let us know what you think via the ‘Suggestions’ page!

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Herald article

The university has spoken publicly about the recommendations to Senate (Herald article, 17/05, below).Please let us have YOUR views on the proposals by posting via the ‘Suggestions’ tab on the menu. The fight is not over yet.

Courses for older students saved by protests


17 May 2011

EVENING and weekend classes at Glasgow University appear to have been saved after a public outcry over plans to close them.

The university has now recommended keeping open its Department of Adult and Continuing Education.

However, the unit will have to pay its way and a grant it previously received will be phased out over the next few years.

That will mean the public is likely to face higher charges for some courses, while others could be scrapped if they prove uneconomic, leading to accusations of privatisation of the service.

The university repeated previous statements that there would be no threat to any access courses, which help widen participation.

The panel was struck by the level of interest from the community … Court should be mindful of  alienating the community

The Herald revealed earlier this year that Glasgow University had drawn up proposals to close the department, or scale back what it offered, as part of wider cuts to courses.

The university’s senior man-agement group argued that closing adult education would reduce the university’s salary costs and provide additional savings by reducing the use of buildings. However, critics said the courses were popular – with nearly 6000 enrolments this year – and showed the university’s commitment to the wider community.

There was a public backlash with more than 1000 letters and emails of protest sent to  Professor Anton Muscatelli, the university principal.

The adult education department was also defended by  Scotland’s national poet, Liz Lochhead, and Professor John Brown, the Astronomer Royal for Scotland, who both said adult education classes at Glasgow were at the root of their subsequent achievements .

A consultation on the proposals by a specialist university panel has now recommended keeping the department open.

“The panel was struck by the level of interest from the community in the provision offered,” its report states.

“It is clearly perceived as a key mechanism for the university’s engagement with the commun-ity and has a strong impact on the university’s reputation locally.

“Court should be mindful of the negative impact of alienating the local community.”

However, the report adds that the view of the panel was that the open programme could not continue to operate on its  existing basis.

A number of recommendations for change are included, which will be considered by  the university’s ruling Court  in June.

Foremost of these is that the department of adult and continuing education becomes an independent, self-supporting unit within three years.

After that it should get no public support from the Scottish Funding Council (SFC).

“The business model … should account for all income … together with direct and indirect costs such that the programme at least breaks even, with no reliance on the SFC funded places in the model,” the report states.

The panel also calls on the department to develop a marketing and advertising strategy to highlight its work more widely, and suggests running summer schools to broaden its appeal.

Yesterday, Ms Lochhead welcomed the recommendations to keep the department, but said a close eye would have to be kept on the level of fees charged.

“This has been a wonderful asset to the wider community and it is good news that it will be retained, but the courses should be affordable and not everything in life should be subject to a business model.”

Mr Brown said: “On the face of it this is good news, but we may end up with a situation where the university wants to take credit for running these courses, but is not going to  pay for it. Crass privatisation of the open programme should  be avoided.”

A university spokesman said: “We can confirm these are the recommendations in the report which will be considered by the university Court at its meeting in June.”

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10 Recommendations for DACE’s future

Following last week’s brief announcement we now have the Consultation Panel’s recommendations for the Open Programmes following a leak via Glasgow Uni Occupied’s Facebook page (the text is also included at the end of this post).


Having contacted the University, they have naturally expressed disappointment that this information has emerged in advance of comment from those most directly affected (and from the University Court). However they have confirmed the accuracy of what has been published.

We respect this, but believe a much wider constituency has a genuine interest in DACE’s future and that this openness is healthy.

Share your initial reactions to these proposals by making a comment on the new SUGGESTIONS section of this website (see new tab above).

We will work to clarify whatever else we can this week.

From Glasgow Uni Occupied’s Facebook page :

Executive Summary

A proposal was submitted to Court to consider withdrawing from some or all Open Programmes courses and the associated Certificate in Higher Education on the basis that they did not fit with the University’s strategy. The Panel conducted a comprehensive consultation exercise, inviting input from a range of parties both internal to the University and external. It has also benefited from receipt of the many submissions to the Principal and to the Head of College. The Panel met with the Head of the College, with the School of Education Executive, and with the senior staff associated with the Open Programme to take evidence as well as holding open meetings with staff teaching on the programmes and students undertaking the programmes: 4 meetings with each of these constituencies were held including in the evening. A meeting was also held with the SRC.

Summary of recommendations The core recommendation of the Panel to SMG and to Court is that the University continues to provide courses through the Open Programme but that it establishes a robust business model, and accompanying business plan, to enable this to be achieved (by end December 2011 at the latest) with implementation commencing no later than summer 2012. The business model should incorporate all of the recommendations made in this report.

An integrated marketing strategy should be developed, raising the profile of the Open Programme and establishing a strong public-facing identity, no later than January 2012. This should include a coherent pricing strategy which recognises the diversity of the student body and includes appropriate recognition for ILA200 purposes.

In taking forward the development and marketing of the Open Programme in the timescales identified attention should be given to significantly improving the understanding of the Open Programme within the University, its integration with the rest of the University, and identifying and developing synergies.

The Open Programme should be developed to include inter alia a programme of Summer School activities for visitors to Glasgow and Scotland as well as to local residents, ideally for offer from summer 2012.

The current arrangements for programme management should be revised to ensure that appropriate threshold numbers for individual courses are identified and kept to.

The credit rating of the CertHE courses should be reviewed prior to the start of AY 2012/13 to ensure alignment within a coherent framework and consistent with the existing arrangements implemented in the rest of the University.

The T grant support for the Open Programme should be phased out such that the Open Programme becomes self-supporting from fees charged with minimal or, ideally, no support from the T grant as early as possible and no later than the third year of the business plan.

The Open Programme should be kept as a single unit rather than broken into its subject components.

An independent, self-supporting unit should be established within University Services with effect from 1 August 2011. The business model should define the future shape of the Open Programme core team and should include appropriate arrangements for leadership and management of the Programme.

The Access programmes should continue to be offered alongside the Open Programme with shared leadership and administrative support.


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DACE News flash! Panel releases statement…

We have just received this brief notification from DACE – evidence that all of your efforts have been worthwhile. We wish to see the detail behind it, but we remain positive and very encouraged. Thank you, everyone. 

“The Panel has conducted a comprehensive consultation exercise and has received many submissions; its report will be discussed at Senate on 2 June with onward transmission to Court on 22 June.  The Panel does not support the SMG proposition that the University withdraws from the Open Programme.  That said, a number of recommendations for change are being made with regard to the future model of delivery.”

We’ll post more information as and when we receive it.

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CR&DALL Seminar, 23 May, free, register online!

Professor Alan B. Knox – University of Wisconsin


Innovation and Change in Adult Education Organisations
Professor Knox will lead a discussion of innovation and change which will include reference to the following:  

  • Interconnected influences related to persons, groups, organizations and society that warrant attention to intervention.

  • Analysis of reflective leadership and organizational innovation.

  • Guidelines for successful program proposals to enable mutually beneficial cooperation by multiple stakeholders.

  • Strategies for comparative analysis to assess how collaborative efforts work and could be enabled to work better by emphasis on benefits to multiple stakeholders.


Alan B. Knox, is Professor of continuing education at the School of Education, University of Wisconsin, USA. Dr. Knox is well known globally for his teaching, administration, research,editing, publications, association leadership, and international comparative education projects. Topics of his books include: adult development and learning, helping adults learn, leadership strategies, global perspectives on synergistic leadership, and evaluation for continuing education.

This spring, Professor Knox is teaching a graduate seminar on ‘Reflective Leadership’ in the UW School of Education, Department of Educational Leadership. He is also affiliated with the UW School of Medicine and Public Health, Office of Continuing Professional Development. In addition to assistance with professional development projects in Wisconsin and the United States, he is engaged in planning and evaluation for several international projects, such as:

         A five year collaboration by four US medical Schools and four medical schools in Ethiopia regarding preparatory and continuing education of physicians and related health professionals to increase availability and effectiveness of local and regional health care in Ethiopia.

         An international two year project focused on university collaboration for regional economic development to assist public administrators deal with regional challenges such as employment, health, and education.

         A long term effort by a health profession association that has long provided outstanding professional development services to members in North America, and is now responding to opportunities for collaboration with corresponding associations in Europe and in Asia.

In addition to conducting the CRADALL Seminar on Innovation in the afternoon of Monday, May 23, Dr. Knox welcomes other opportunities to meet with scholars and practitioners interested in lifelong learning opportunities for adults, during his current visit to Scotland. Individual conversations or meetings during May 22-27, can be arranged – which could occur by phone if this suits. Conversations and meetings can include exploration of mutually beneficial future efforts

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Questions and discussion are encouraged as part of the Seminar..

While the CR&DALL Seminar Series is free and open to all, we do ask that you register in order to allow us to plan accommodation and refreshments. Places are available on a first-come-first-served basis. If you intend to come along to the Seminar please e-mail us at cradall@educ.gla.ac.uk and provide your name, institution/department (if appropriate) and a daytime contact telephone number (in case of cancellation).

Thank you.


Room 614, School of Education, University of Glasgow, St. Andrew’s Building, Eldon St.
GLASGOW G3 6NH 0141 330 1833


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Statement from DACE re 2011/12 brochures!

Glasgow University DACE has made the following response to our enquiry about availability of course brochures for next year:

“Thanks for your enquiry about the brochures. We are expecting them to be prepared and sent out to students as normal. The CertHE brochure will not be printed this year, but we hope to circulate it, as a pdf, to current students towards the middle or end of June. The main brochure will be out in mid-August as usual. All students from the current academic session, and from 2009-10, will be posted a copy. If anyone who has not recently been a student would like a copy, please email dace-query@educ.gla.ac.uk.”

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